From an interview with Courtney Love, lead singer of Hole, in Rollerderby No.12. Love was interviewed by Lisa Carver, Rollerderby's editor and publisher. The interview was reprinted in the Readings section of Harper's Magazine/October 1993.

"Lisa: What's your tip?

Courtney: The thing you gotta do is A) Stop counting calories! Okay? B) Do not get on a scale! 'Cause lean muscle weighs more than fat. All right? I cut out FAT! That's all you gotta do. FAT! No cheese. That's it Lisa. Period. NO CHEESE. I told this to KROQ, I told this to my nanny. People I tell this to lose ten, thirty pounds. STOP CHEESE. You know why Orientals are not fat? 'Cause they look on cheese as this gross Western habit. It's like sour milk -- LARD. They don't want anything to fucking do with cheese. If you're going to eat cheese, take it out on a picnic, cut it up carefully, and really taste it -- with wine or something. Don't melt it on shit. And I lost FORTY POUNDS by not eating cheese. And I even ate a little mayonnaise. All right? Skip the butter and skip the cheese and you will lose weight. I swear to God, Lisa.

Lisa: Here's my second question --